Legislature(2003 - 2004)

01/27/2003 03:15 PM House L&C

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
          HOUSE LABOR AND COMMERCE STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                         
                        January 27, 2003                                                                                        
                           3:15 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tom Anderson, Chair                                                                                              
Representative Bob Lynn, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom                                                                                                  
Representative Carl Gatto                                                                                                       
Representative Norman Rokeberg                                                                                                  
Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                   
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner, Department of Labor & Workforce Development                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Greg O'Claray - Juneau                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS ACTION                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
GREG O'CLARAY, Commissioner                                                                                                     
Department of Labor & Workforce Development                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified as appointed commissioner of the                                                                  
Department of Labor & Workforce Development.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-2, SIDE A                                                                                                             
Number 0001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR TOM ANDERSON  called the House Labor  and Commerce Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   3:15  p.m.    Representatives                                                               
Anderson, Lynn,  Gatto, Crawford, and Guttenberg  were present at                                                               
the  call  to  order.   Representatives  Rokeberg  and  Dahlstrom                                                               
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HB 4 - EXPAND PUBLIC CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0068                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON briefly called the  committee's attention to House                                                               
Bill  NO. 4,  "An  Act relating  to  publicly owned  correctional                                                               
facilities."   He explained  that Representative  Crawford's bill                                                               
is  not  relevant to  this  committee,  so  it will  probably  be                                                               
referred to  the House State  Affairs Standing Committee  and the                                                               
House Finance Committee.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON announced  that  HB  4 will  be  waived from  the                                                               
committee.   This action will  be formally announced at  the next                                                               
House session  on Wednesday, January  29.  [End of  discussion of                                                               
HB 4.]                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner, Department of Labor & Workforce Development                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON  announced that the  committee would  consider the                                                               
confirmation of the appointment  of Greg O'Claray as commissioner                                                               
of the Department of Labor & Workforce Development.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0278                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
GREG  O'CLARAY, Commissioner,  Department  of  Labor &  Workforce                                                               
Development, explained that he was  born in Portland, Oregon, and                                                               
came to Juneau  in 1950.  He  has lived in the  state except when                                                               
working  on ships,  attending school,  and  lobbying for  Alaskan                                                               
issues in Washington, D.C.  He  has spent most of his life, since                                                               
age 14,  doing work involving  the ocean.   Most recently  he has                                                               
represented the  seafaring unions of organized  labor and lobbied                                                               
for  various clients  before the  Alaska  State Legislature,  the                                                               
State of Alaska administration, and the U.S. Congress.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY explained  that  Governor Frank  Murkowski                                                               
has  set the  agenda  for  the Department  of  Labor &  Workforce                                                               
Development  by appointing  him,  a  representative of  organized                                                               
labor, as commissioner, and Ed  Fisher, who has a long background                                                               
in  management, as  deputy commissioner.   Commissioner  O'Claray                                                               
noted  that  the charge  of  the  department  has expanded.    In                                                               
addition  to offering  the required  core  services that  protect                                                               
workers' health  and safety,  fair wages and  hours of  work, the                                                               
department is also  required to partner with  management to train                                                               
the  workforce for  the 21st  century.   An administrative  order                                                               
[No. 205,  dated January 20,  2003] authorized the creation  of a                                                               
new  division,  the  Division  of  Business  Partnerships.    The                                                               
division will  assume some  responsibilities formerly  handled by                                                               
the  Division of  Employment Security  and  the Alaska  Workforce                                                               
Investment Board.   Commissioner O'Claray explained  that the new                                                               
division's  charge is  to train  the state's  human resources  to                                                               
fill the  jobs in future  natural resource  development projects.                                                               
The department must act as the  economic engine to make sure that                                                               
construction  dollars paid  to workers  stay in  our economy  and                                                               
don't go  south, as they  did with  laborers imported to  work on                                                               
the trans-Alaska pipeline.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0589                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANDERSON quoted  Governor  Murkowski's  December 9,  2002,                                                               
press   release  announcing   the  appointment   of  Commissioner                                                               
O'Claray  to the  Department of  Labor  & Workforce  Development.                                                               
The  release  described  the   department  as  "moribund,  highly                                                               
politicized."  He asked Commissioner O'Claray to respond.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0620                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY explained  that the  governor's statements                                                               
reflected information gleaned during  the campaign and during the                                                               
transition  to his  administration.   Interviews  with large  and                                                               
small employers revealed that the  department was not friendly to                                                               
employers.   Commissioner O'Claray said  his charge is  to change                                                               
that  image.    Department  staff are  quickly  reaching  out  to                                                               
employers  and the  business  community.   He  said that  without                                                               
businesses, there are no jobs,  and without jobs, there's no need                                                               
for  federal dollars  to train  workers.   Commissioner  O'Claray                                                               
said   the  department's   job   is  larger   than  handing   out                                                               
unemployment checks.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  asked Commissioner O'Claray to  identify his                                                               
top three  priorities and how  he plans  to work with  the public                                                               
school systems to promote labor-and-commerce  education.  He also                                                               
asked him  to comment  on training  workers for  in-state private                                                               
prisons.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY  responded that one challenge  is to change                                                               
the image  of the  department.   The second is  to make  sure the                                                               
core services offered - a  safe workplace and enforcement of wage                                                               
and hour laws  - are delivered in a helpful  rather than punitive                                                               
manner.  He said there will  be times the department will need to                                                               
use the  teeth in  its laws to  bring employers  into compliance.                                                               
But he  noted that  the department's style  will have  to change.                                                               
He listed his third priority  as efficiency and being accountable                                                               
to the public on how general fund and federal dollars are spent.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0935                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY referenced  the  governor's concern  about                                                               
the  outmigration of  Alaskan college  students and  the need  to                                                               
provide good jobs  so they can return  to the state to  work.  He                                                               
mentioned the example  of a vocational education  program used in                                                               
Florida  elementary schools.    He said  the  department is  also                                                               
considering summer  internships for  high school students  in the                                                               
seafood industry, where there's  a high percentage of nonresident                                                               
workers.   He said the department  has a large fund  of workforce                                                               
investment dollars for grantees to provide vocational training.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY  cautioned that  the legislature  will deal                                                               
with the  policy issue of  private prisons.   But, he  added, the                                                               
department will  train correctional  officers, and he  is working                                                               
with the  commissioner of the  Department of Corrections  to fund                                                               
this training.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1117                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG asked  Commissioner  O'Claray how  the                                                               
department  intends  to work  more  closely  with business  while                                                               
still helping  workers redress their  issues with employers.   He                                                               
also  invited him  to  comment on  how  the department's  mission                                                               
statement will change.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY  clarified that the prime  objective of the                                                               
Department of  Labor & Workforce  Development is to  advocate for                                                               
workers.  He  said that Governor Murkowski has  instructed him to                                                               
maintain close  ties with organized  labor because it is  a major                                                               
player in improving  the state's economy.   The governor supports                                                               
organized  labor's  training  programs  and  their  provision  of                                                               
competent  journeymen   for  the   crafts.     It  is   also  the                                                               
department's  responsibility  to make  sure  that  good jobs  are                                                               
developed for  Alaskans.  And  part of that  task is to  foster a                                                               
healthy  business  environment  while   still  making  sure  that                                                               
workers'  rights,  safety,  and   health  are  safeguarded.    He                                                               
described this  dual responsibility as a  teeter-totter that must                                                               
be  kept   in  balance.    Regarding   the  department's  mission                                                               
statement, he  opined that  it will  expand to  include workforce                                                               
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1344                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  asked  the  commissioner  how  his  strong                                                               
union-oriented  history squares  up with  right-to-work laws  and                                                               
project labor agreements.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY said he is  personally opposed to right-to-                                                               
work  laws,   but  as  commissioner,   he  will   articulate  the                                                               
governor's position on  labor issues.  He  believes project labor                                                               
agreements  have  their  place,  for  example,  the  Trans-Alaska                                                               
Pipeline construction  project.   He said that  while it  was not                                                               
the most  efficient way  to build this  massive project,  it kept                                                               
labor disputes to  a minimum.  Commissioner  O'Claray said Alaska                                                               
is a union  state in the construction trades, but  he added there                                                               
are "double-breasted  operations" [in which a  union shop company                                                               
and an open-shop company are owned by the same parent company].                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1540                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM  noted that she's been  employed under a                                                               
workforce  development  grant  and  has  witnessed  discrepancies                                                               
among  various grantees  in evaluating  clients.   She asked  the                                                               
commissioner if he has checks and balances for these programs.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY  said he hopes to  improve the department's                                                               
ability to track grantees' expenditures  and accomplishments.  He                                                               
said  the measures  used to  evaluate  clients must  be fair  and                                                               
consistent.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1654                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRAWFORD  noted  that  in his  28  years  in  the                                                               
Alaskan  construction  industry,  he has  seen  numerous  friends                                                               
injured and  several killed.   Protecting workers is a  main part                                                               
of the  department's mission, he  said, and he's  concerned about                                                               
the reduction in safety inspections in recent years.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY agreed  that accidents  and worker  safety                                                               
are major  concerns for  him personally  and for  the department.                                                               
He said he  is looking closely at the management  of the Division                                                               
of Labor Standards  and Safety.  He believes  the division should                                                               
be doing more courtesy inspections.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1856                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  described  the lack  of  housing  and                                                               
sanitation  facilities at  remote highway  construction sites  on                                                               
the Dalton Highway  and in the Paxson area.   The contractors are                                                               
not  required  to  house construction  workers,  and  people  are                                                               
living  in tents  and pickup  trucks.   Organized labor  has been                                                               
trying for  years to get  camps written into these  large, multi-                                                               
year highway contracts.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY said  the department  has not  looked into                                                               
the lack of remote site  camps, but organized labor has contacted                                                               
him to discuss it.  With  the governor's initiative to build more                                                               
roads, this  becomes an important  issue.   Commissioner O'Claray                                                               
said   he  would   be   in  contact   with   the  Department   of                                                               
Transportation [& Public Facilities, the contracting authority].                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 2037                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GATTO  quoted   several   lines  from   Governor                                                               
Murkowski's  press  release  announcing  Commissioner  O'Claray's                                                               
appointment.  He asked Commissioner  O'Claray whether the current                                                               
department needs to be "rescued."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY responded that  the department has an image                                                               
problem, but that  it's not a bad department.   He said there are                                                               
many  hardworking  people  in  the   department  who,  given  the                                                               
opportunity to perform to a higher standard, will do so.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2130                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG opined  that  part  of the  department's                                                               
image  problem  is  caused  by   a  failure  to  serve  non-union                                                               
employees.    He  asked  if  the  commissioner  has  looked  into                                                               
proposed non-union apprenticeship  programs since the committee's                                                               
meeting last week.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY said  he has  not examined  this issue  in                                                               
depth,  but said  he has  spoken with  the president  of the  AGC                                                               
[Associated  General Contractors],  who favors  a double-breasted                                                               
operation.   Commissioner O'Claray  said he doesn't  prefer union                                                               
to nonunion  training programs, and that  requests for department                                                               
training money would be evaluated using the same standards.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2225                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG asked  Commissioner  O'Claray about  his                                                               
past practice of working as a  union official and as a registered                                                               
lobbyist  simultaneously.    He  also  asked  how  he  avoided  a                                                               
conflict of  interest when he  represented the  Avondale Shipyard                                                               
Corporation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY  answered  that  in  order  to  avoid  any                                                               
conflict  of  interest,  he consulted  with  his  union  employer                                                               
before taking clients.  He  described his contract with Kennecott                                                               
Greens Creek Mine,  in which the company wanted  its employees to                                                               
work  at the  face of  the mine  for ten  hours instead  of eight                                                               
hours  a day.   He  coordinated with  organized labor  to find  a                                                               
compromise for this much-needed change in  the law.  With all his                                                               
clients, he  said, he has tried  to find common ground  among the                                                               
various interests.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY  said  that  in  the  maritime  field,  if                                                               
there's no  economic development, there  is no movement  of cargo                                                               
by  workers.   His unions  support economic  development, and  he                                                               
chaired the Juneau Economic Development Council for nine years.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-2, SIDE B                                                                                                             
Number 2320                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY  recalled  that   his  contract  with  the                                                               
Avondale  Shipyard Corporation  involved acquainting  the company                                                               
with   Alaska  procurement   laws;  corporation   officials  were                                                               
interested  in   bidding  on  the   construction  of   the  [M/V]                                                               
Kennicott.   He  said this  contract posed  no conflict  with the                                                               
marine  engineers union  because he  wasn't advocating  for union                                                               
staffing on the vessel.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2300                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  asked about  Commissioner  O'Claray's                                                               
contract  with Fairbanks  Gold Mining,  Inc. ("Fairbanks  Gold").                                                               
He said this issue involved, for  some people, the defense of the                                                               
eight-hour workday.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY  explained that the employees  of Fairbanks                                                               
Gold wanted  to work  a flexible schedule,  with longer  days, so                                                               
they could spend more time off  with their families.  He recalled                                                               
that a group  of employees came to Juneau  with company officials                                                               
and asked for  a waiver to permit them to  work the longer hours.                                                               
Commissioner O'Claray  noted the irony of  the situation, because                                                               
if Fairbanks Gold  workers had had a union  contract, their union                                                               
could have negotiated  a flexible schedule.  His role  was to try                                                               
to get a compromise between the parties.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2215                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  asked how the commissioner  would handle                                                               
Fairbanks  Gold's request  for  an exemption  if  he received  it                                                               
today.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2160                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY   said  that  in   weighing  circumstances                                                               
similar  to Fairbanks  Gold's  case, he  would  address the  core                                                               
question of who  would benefit, the workers or the  employer.  He                                                               
added   that  he   would  have   recommended   that  the   former                                                               
commissioner  consider an  exemption.   The legislature  did pass                                                               
the 10-hours-at-the-face  law, a compromise that  worked for both                                                               
industry and labor, he said.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2073                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO asked  Commissioner O'Claray  what test  he                                                               
would  use  to determine  that  the  department has  become  more                                                               
accountable.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY  said  he's  communicating  now  with  the                                                               
department's critics.   He said  he's also looking  to department                                                               
employees who  can suggest  improvements.   He'll ask  these same                                                               
questions in  six months  and then again  in another  six months.                                                               
He'll  also  be   asking  the  public,  the   governor,  and  the                                                               
legislature  for feedback.   He  invited Representative  Gatto to                                                               
suggest ways to measure the department's performance.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1841                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRAWFORD asked  about  the  status of  department                                                               
positions  that are  vacant because  of  budget cuts.   He  asked                                                               
whether the  commissioner will  request more  funds to  hire more                                                               
workers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY said  he can't  answer that  question yet,                                                               
but that the  Murkowski Administration is looking  at funding the                                                               
department at  90 or 95 percent  of this year's budget.   He said                                                               
he is evaluating  the assignments of current staff.   He said the                                                               
department  may have  to shift  positions  to shore  up any  weak                                                               
sections.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1770                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM asked  whether the commissioner believes                                                               
the  workers' compensation  law  is fair  to  both employers  and                                                               
injured workers.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY said  he is not totally  satisfied with the                                                               
current  workers' compensation  system.   He  said  it is  always                                                               
important  to improve  workers' benefits,  but it's  necessary to                                                               
take into  account the cost  to employers.  He  said improvements                                                               
depend on a  tax-driven system.  He proposed going  back to an ad                                                               
hoc  committee  of organized  labor  and  employers to  see  what                                                               
changes they support.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER    O'CLARAY   responded    to   a    question   from                                                               
Representative Crawford about  whether he favored a  bill in last                                                               
year's  legislative  session  that would  have  made  independent                                                               
contractors  liable  for  workers'  compensation.    Commissioner                                                               
O'Claray  indicated that  he was  not familiar  with last  year's                                                               
legislation but would research it and get back with him.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1649                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  asked whether  Commissioner  O'Claray                                                               
will  continue to  be  an  officer of  the  Juneau Central  Labor                                                               
Council.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY replied that he would not.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1621                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  asked  Commissioner O'Claray  whether  his                                                               
past activities  of advocating for  a cruise ship  passenger head                                                               
tax and  the steamship wharf  project in Juneau  would negatively                                                               
affect his ability to work with the cruise ship industry.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY  reviewed his  actions to fund  and improve                                                               
Juneau's cruise ship facilities.   He said he didn't believe this                                                               
advocacy would  impact his job.   He added  that he would  not be                                                               
involved in Juneau politics or state politics.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1470                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER    O'CLARAY   responded    to   a    question   from                                                               
Representative  Guttenberg  about  Alaska's  weekly  unemployment                                                               
benefit that is ranked among  the lowest payments in the country.                                                               
The  commissioner   said  he  favors  raising   the  unemployment                                                               
benefit,  but  is  mindful  of  how such  a  raise  would  impact                                                               
employers.   Other states' funds  are threatened  with insolvency                                                               
because  of  the extended  time  that  out-of-work employees  are                                                               
drawing unemployment.   Commissioner  O'Claray said he  is trying                                                               
to  get labor  and  management together  to  work out  compromise                                                               
legislation to  raise benefits.   He has not had  the opportunity                                                               
to brief  the governor on this  subject, so there is  no official                                                               
position yet, but he's working on it.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  O'CLARAY, in  response to  Representative Rokeberg,                                                               
said  he  will  provide  more detailed  information  on  Alaska's                                                               
national ranking on unemployment benefits.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1302                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  asked  for  the  status  of  the  youth                                                               
training program  [HB 128 -  Approval for Employment  of Minors],                                                               
passed in 2002, which expedited the hiring process.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   O'CLARAY  responded   that  he   has  signed   the                                                               
regulations and  that the  Department of Law  is doing  the final                                                               
review.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1225                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:32 p.m. to 4:35 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG turned attention  to the committee report                                                               
for confirmations.   He  said he takes  exception to  the revised                                                               
format of the  report that is used to  advance confirmations from                                                               
committee.   The revised form  requires a vote of  "confirm," "do                                                               
not confirm,"  or "no recommendation."   He said this  form needs                                                               
to  be reviewed  by the  House's  new leadership.   He  suggested                                                               
reverting back  to the historic  method of handling  this report,                                                               
checking off either "refer [the  nomination] to joint session" or                                                               
"do not  refer to joint session."   He said the  committee should                                                               
continue  this system  until there's  a decision  by this  year's                                                               
leadership.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1151                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   ROKEBERG  moved   to   amend  the   confirmation                                                               
committee report to indicate that  the committee is reporting the                                                               
individual  recommendations in  a  form of  "refer  to the  joint                                                               
session" or "do not refer to joint session".                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1190                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CRAWFORD objected  for discussion  purposes.   He                                                               
asked  whether  this   current  form  has  been   used  by  other                                                               
committees  in  the  past  for  reporting  confirmations  out  of                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    ROKEBERG     explained    that    historically,                                                               
confirmation forms  have never used  the choices of  "confirm" or                                                               
"do  not  confirm".   It  is  not  appropriate to  put  committee                                                               
members on the spot as to how  they're going to vote at the joint                                                               
session, he said.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1055                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CRAWFORD withdrew his objection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1017                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON,  hearing no further  objections to the  motion to                                                               
revise the  confirmation committee report, announced  that it was                                                               
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON  reminded committee members to  sign the [revised]                                                               
confirmation   committee  report   [on  Commissioner   O'Claray's                                                               
confirmation] before leaving the meeting.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
[Although  no  motion was  made,  the  House Labor  and  Commerce                                                               
Standing Committee  advanced the  nomination of Greg  O'Claray as                                                               
commissioner   of   the   Department   of   Labor   &   Workforce                                                               
Development.]                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Labor and  Commerce Standing Committee  meeting was  adjourned at                                                               
4:40 p.m.                                                                                                                       

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